In California, June Gloom is the period at the end of Spring when the sun goes in, and the collective mood of the state drops. "I guess you don't really get that here… because the weather is always terrible" laughs Kacey Underwood. He's not wrong, as we sit in a little pub on a typically cloudy London morning. "I really like the title because it's kind of oxymoronic over here" he says, and explains that the phrase takes on a totally different meaning in the UK. "It's like a feeling where you you're happy and sad, which is such a big theme for us, so I really like that."

It's been less than two years since the release of Lights Out, a debut album that saw Big Deal popping up on music blogs across the internet, but the band say they've been planning the follow up for even longer. "We'd already started writing some of the songs when Lights Outwas coming out" says Kacey, "we wanted to make an album that wasn't so much what we sounded like in that second, but more like what we wanted to sound like."

Although Lights Out was well-received by fans and critics alike, the twosome were keen not to make the same album twice. "With Lights Out we were capturing a moment in time and it was quite introspective. It was quite… simple" starts Alice, "We were very literal, and although it felt like a really brave thing to do, we didn't want to do it again." Instead, they took inspiration from current affairs and world events for the lyrics on June Gloom. "A lot of stuff happened in the last couple of years that makes us think about the world more. We really wanted to make something that makes you feel something good."

To do so, the band recruited a drummer and bass player for the recording of June Gloom, eschewing the two-guitar sound that they favoured the first time round. "It's hard to write songs, and make songs that make people feel really big, when you're just two guitarists. For the first album, we wanted to make an album with just guitars, but we didn't want any limitations for June Gloom," says Kacey.

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They recorded the album aboard the Light Ship 95, a boat on the East India Quays. "For the first few days we were trying to record while we tried to keep balance, but it kind of keeps you in a constant dreamy state because you're being rocked about" says Alice. Recording the album was easier for the band this time round, after spending the recording process for Lights Out working from GarageBand demos. "It was really nice to be able to come into this recording situation with a certain level of confidence" says Kacey, adding that the album was recorded in a speedy 12 days. "I've seen it happen when people record things for like a year, and it becomes something other than they wanted it to be" says Alice, "we wanted it to still have that live element, and not to sound super produced. We were learning the songs as we were recording them."

The band will debut the album material at a string of live dates this spring, and after a lengthy break from recording, and the addition of new members, they're a little nervous about it. "When so much time passes, it becomes the question of whether we can still do it" says Kacey. "We want the shows to be louder, that's why we're so excited to be able to do that with the live drum and bass" says Alice, interrupted by Kacey with "You want to rock, you mean."

Nervous as they might be, both Kacey and Alice are eager to get back to touring, especially after Kacey was held in California at the start of the year with visa troubles. "It was hard getting everything going with Kacey so far away, and the album's been ready since November so it's been very frustrating" says Alice, and Kacey's quick to agree that they're more than ready to start touring again, "It's something that we kind of need in our lives, like a writer needs to write, and I feel a big relief knowing I can go back to work."


Big Deal release June Gloom on June 3rd via Mute. For their upcoming tour dates, head here.