"Feelings are fickle. What that means is that they come and they go. Nobody is one thing forever," Joe Budden condescendingly grunted at Lil Yachty this week in an interview that soon went viral. The OG rapper turned Complex host sat down with the Grammy-nominated, platinum-selling artist to talk about an array of industry-related issues, but the calm 19-year-old rap star only concerned himself with one thing - his happiness. Joe didn't understand why.

In a time where it seems and sounds as though rap is going through its emo moment, artists like Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert and 23-year-old California-based artist KYLE just look at it as being carefree - an authentic alternative to the hypermasculine, hyper-aggressive rap that came before them. And while longevity is, of course, the desired goal, they're really just happy to be here.

KYLE is woken out of his deep dark dreamless REM sleep to speak to me. He's been touring and attempting to spread a similar concept of positivity as his iSpy collaborator, through not only his music, but the message he leaves his fans after every show. It's a similar sentiment he shares with me.

How's life defending the universe?

I'm good. I'm super tired. I literally woke up 10 seconds ago. It's weird. I was just woken up by six people. 'You gotta get up right now. You gotta do this.' So, I'm sorry that I'm tired.

You're human. Are you still on tour right now, is that why you're trying to take sleep where it comes?

Yeah. Right now, literally, sleep is my favourite thing. I would choose sleeping over eating. All day. I would choose sleeping over chains. If I had to choose either acquiring more rapper chains or sleeping, I would choose sleeping.

Were you dreaming about chains when you were woken up? Were you dreaming about anything?

Nah. Yo, this was one of those cold, hard sleeps where you don't even have time to dream.

Well, you've been working hard. So how's the tour been and how would you describe the energy at your shows?

The tour has been amazing. I've never been more proud and my energy, I feel, has never really been matched from any of the crowds on my previous tours. This time, I feel like because of the songs and because my fans have just been so loyal and patiently waiting for us to have a moment, their excitement is through the roof. They come to every single show just excited for what's going on right now.

I was reading about how a lot of fans come to the shows to hear advice from you and you spend time talking to the crowd. What's once piece of advice you vividly remember giving?

I told kids at my New York show that I know you guys always see me acting super happy and super positive all the time but it's impossible to say that every single day is going to start off a good day. I told them that it's not about being happy all the time, it's about trying to be happy all the time. I was basically just telling them that, if y'all are having a bad day or hard time in your life, it's okay to be sad about it. But what I don't want to see you do is give up that fight to remain a positive person. Because that's when shit starts to get weird - when a person gives up.

It's true. It's such a constant inner dialogue you need to have with yourself. Sometimes positivity comes easy and other days, it's work. For you, what do you do in your own life to maintain those vibes for yourself?

I drink a lot of water. I love coffee. And I just try and appreciate small shit in the moment. You know what I mean? Even if everything sucks but there's an awesome coloured green wall in sight. I'd just be like, wow, look at that wall. Look how awesome that wall is. And I'd just give all my love and praise to that one good thing about the moment. There's always something to be appreciative of in any situation. There's always something to love. And if you focus on all those and highlight those, you'll be perfect. Just now, I was tired, I was shaken and woken up. And I'm still looking at this aqua ironing board in the right corner that looks cool. So even if everything else is wack, that ironing board is awesome. And you are awesome. There are some awesome things about this moment right now.

Why thanks. And that's refreshing. When it comes to popular rap at the moment, it can really feel like we're living in this emo renaissance - especially with lines from Uzi like "All my friends are dead, push me to the edge." What's it like to know that in a way, you're almost the antithesis of that?

I have to give a lot of credit to guys like Uzi. But I don't think that it's just me. I feel like in a way, all the new rappers are expressing a carefree attitude, regardless of if its the way that I do it. From just the way that Uzi dresses and the way he acts, it's a completely new wave. But ya, I'm definitely the antithesis. It feels awesome. But I definitely have some emo songs in the bank as well. That's why I think it's hard to answer the question, because I look at Uzi as a positive alternative to what came before him for the crowd and the purpose he serves. For me, I think I fall into my own place. For all of us, we're just a piece of the puzzle right now. We're all an important piece to hip-hop. And my piece is showing kids that you don't have to be built perfect and you don't have to be raised perfect for you to feel perfect. I'm just here to help people right now.

With all the success that you've received lately for doing just that, what makes you happiest?

After recording a song and writing it and after releasing it and after promoting it and shooting the video for it. After doing all of these things to get the song out there, if it's a song that really has a message to it, the best part is performing that song and looking a fan in the eyes and seeing how much the music means to them. As a performer, you can just see how much your music means to the people screaming that shit. Like, this was an idea in my head and now it's an idea in their head. That's definitely the best part.

And you're also receiving all these industry accolades - like the term 'platinum.' Are they the same type of joy?

They're definitely different. The industry ones are more fulfilling to the little kid me that just wanted to be a rapper. Those are more fulfilling to the starry-eyed me that doesn't really know the industry. The one that never expected to have a number one rap song. But the accolades I get from my fans are real life. That's not what the 15-year-old me cared about that's what the 23-year-old me cares about - the fact that you can really make an effect on people.

Now that you're heading into working on your new album, do you have a mission with it?

I definitely have a motive and a certain direction that I want to go but I'm also in this creative space where I'm not trying to put too many walls around it. I'm trying to leave room open for me to do whatever. I have to talk about what I'm feeling about in the moment. So making an album, for me, is just a complete dice roll. I just need to make something I love.